Saturday, January 31, 2015
Monday, January 19, 2015
Closure of Nocatee/Old 210 Survey - Comments notes
Listed below are the comments made by participates on the Survey concerning the closure of Nocatee/Old 210 road.
Bring back the road!
1/17/2015 8:20 PM View respondent's answers
Guanna preserve would be a great
place, to pave the dirt road, so cyclist, runners, etc would have a safe place
to train, without riding with cars.
1/16/2015 8:42 PM View respondent's answers
Exponentially safer to stay straight
on the road at all times, there are people running,walking, rollerblade, riding
bikes 5-8 mph, the multi use bridge has raised wooden platforms and there are
poles in the center of the multi use. on the nocatee parkway section between
Crosswater and Davis you could move the 45 mph sign to the westside of the
overpass. as a group we ride thousands of miles on A1A and US 1, Nocatee
Parkway is very similar to both highways.
1/16/2015 2:37 PM View respondent's answers
Closing Palm Valley Road at Davis
Park (to Valley Ridge Blvd was extremely short-sighted on the part of the St.
Johns County Commissioners and it was unfortunate that the ETM engineering
study completely failed to include the safety issues that will be created by
forcing cyclists to cross over busy lanes of Nocatee Parkway to access the
so-called multi-use trail as well as the additional safety concerned by
comingling cyclists and pedestrians on such a narrow path.
1/16/2015 9:34 AM View respondent's answers
Perfect area to ride! Please help us
keep this area safe but accessible for cyclist!!
1/15/2015 8:01 AM View respondent's answers
As a very significant taxpayer and
employer of over 700 Jacksonville citizens I'm hopeful that the SJCC will see
the wisdom of making our community more "bike friendly". Thriving
communities are built around thriving people, and our cycling community is full
of the latter. We live, work, and pay taxes in this community, and should not
be disenfranchised from using critical public resources, like roads, simply
because we choose pedals over a pedal. Jacksonville talks a big game about
being a up and coming community….here is an opportunity to prove it. Russ
Thomas, CEO, Availity
1/15/2015 12:33 AM View respondent's answers
I would much prefer dealing with cars
going straight ahead to the radio rather than trying to navigate crossing
Nocatee pkwy to the multi use path and having to compete with pedestrians on
the trail
1/14/2015 10:04 PM View respondent's answers
The county may be liable for
accidents caused by forcing cyclists off the road onto the side walk. They need
to make the right decision here. Cyclists pay taxes.
1/14/2015 7:41 PM View respondent's answers
We need to keep the roads open for
cyclists. Cyclists using these roads are traveling too fast to safely use the
multi-purpose sidewalk.
1/14/2015 6:51 PM View respondent's answers
Everyone that lives in that area or
travels through there, police/sheriff included, knows there is a large group of
cyclists that ride that route weekly (weekend and during the week). It is the
safest place we have to ride. A1A is dangerous...people pass head on, drift to
the bike lane and truly are not considerate of cyclists. We do not have this
issue in Nocatee. There is very little traffic so we do not "in the
way". Please do not make us cross over to the bike path at the light.
turning right was the safest route, but if you take that away, the only other
"safe" path is to go straight, take the 1st exit and then turn
right....left turns are dangerous as a cyclist and we sincerely do try to avoid
them.
1/14/2015 6:41 PM View respondent's answers
we can not safely cross traffic to
use multiuser trail.
1/14/2015 5:40 PM View respondent's answers
For years 210 provided cyclists with
a way to travel east and west at the south end of Ponte Vedra. With the
creation of Nocotee there have many additional good roads with bike lanes
developed within Nocotee that are great for riding. However access to Nocotee
from the beach is full of peril. A bike lane was not created at the base of Palm
valley bridge extending out to Nocotee and with the distruction of old 210,
this makes the problem worse. Forcing cyclists to cross 4 lanes of speeding
traffic is extremely dangerous and will eventually result in a collision. The
only sensible solution for the immediate future is to open the limited access
road west of the Palm Vally Bridge.
1/14/2015 5:33 PM View respondent's answers
Someone really needs to be there to
observe the speeds of the cyclists using these roads, it is so dangerous to mix
cars and bikes at those speeds, hence the reason why we like the old 210 road
so much. No cars! While I'm at it, why are there no bike lanes on Mickler
between AIA and the roundabout? The most heavily traveled route of all. Thx.
1/14/2015 5:12 PM View respondent's answers
I fear more accidents and lives could
be damaged vehicles and cyclists alike. Vehicles don't know about this change
because us cyclists were never a hinderance before. If this changes and we have
to cross over, who's going to warn vehicles that expect us to turn right at the
light? When vehicles don't knw and continue their fast speed not paying
attention to cyclists crossing over. An accident waiting to happen.
1/14/2015 2:54 PM View respondent's answers
I have been riding 210 for 25 years
with large and small groups. When you authorize developments...consider the
bike riders need a safe part of the road. They have no right to ekununate iyr
access to roadways.
1/14/2015 2:19 PM View respondent's answers
The safest thing to do here is pretty
simple. Allow cyclists to use the road including the exits on & off Nocatee
Parkway to & from Crosswater Parkway. The multi-use trail is dangerous in
that the speeds combined with the number of cyclists is dangerous to the
cyclists & the other users of the trail.
1/14/2015 1:55 PM View respondent's answers
This area, along with the stretch of
road from A1A to the Palm Valley Bridge, is the most dangerous area of NE St.
Johns County. Please don't close the Old Palm Valley Road or find a better
alternative than the multi-use trail.
1/14/2015 1:34 PM View respondent's answers
The multi use trail is for joggers
and people who walk their dogs. It is not intended nor is it safe for groups of
cyclists to enter and exit at speeds over 20mph.
1/14/2015 1:13 PM View respondent's answers
This stretch of road is vital to
cyclists for us to get into Nocatee to be able to ride!! Closing this stretch
of road would be a travesty and severely anger an entire portion of the
community
1/14/2015 12:34 PM View respondent's answers
I have been promoting St. Johns of
being the most friendly County for people who enjoys practice sports in
Florida! That was the reason I moved here from South Florida! Now we going
backwards!
1/14/2015 12:10 PM View respondent's answers
The multi-user pathway is not safe
for cyclists given the diverse users of the pathway, i.e. walkers, joggers,
people with pets and small children. These users are not tuned into the
presence of cyclists and this endangers everyone.
1/14/2015 12:04 PM View respondent's answers
In small groups (less than 5 riders)
crossing over to the multi use trail is manageable. Larger groups, which is
very common, would not be nearly as safe.
1/14/2015 11:54 AM View respondent's answers
Extremely dangerous to cross the
Parkway without a traffic light and will inevitably result in a tragic
accident.
1/14/2015 11:52 AM View respondent's answers
Completely dangerous crossing that
intersection with distracted drivers
1/14/2015 11:40 AM View respondent's answers
Why the HELL didn't they make a DAMN
BIKE PATH!!!!!!!! when they built the new road?????? They know cyclists have
been riding there for YEARS!!!!!! Also Micklers Road, NO DAMN bike path to and
from A1A….SO stupid………….
1/14/2015 10:37 AM View respondent's answers
Traveling west, typically stay on the
road the whole way, too dangerous to cross back over traffic to get on the
trail Traveling east, I usually hop on the trail out to the bridge
1/14/2015 8:02 AM View respondent's answers
The multi use trail is great for
casual cyclists (on beach cruisers etc) and walkers. To put avid road cyclist
on there, who average over 18mph is dangerous to walkers, the casual cyclist,
kids, pets and the avid cyclists on the multi use train. Faster, avid cyclists
must be on the roads for everyone's safety.
1/14/2015 1:08 AM View respondent's answers
Crossing over to the multiuse trail
is much more dangerous than riding on Nocatee Pkwy to the exit.
1/13/2015 8:23 PM View respondent's answers
Multiuser path is more dangerous than
riding on the road.
1/13/2015 7:53 PM View respondent's answers
I travel down to the Nocatee area
about 2 times per month to bicycle through Nocatee and along A1A at the beach.
I patronize restaurants, stores and gas stations when I am visiting this area.
1/13/2015 12:27 PM View respondent's answers
Why is this Part of Nocatee Pkway
limited access? Why do we need special permission to ride this section of road?
As cyclists we have access to A1A, US1, SR 13, all County Roads etc. What makes
this section of road so special, it's not an Interstate Highway, please give us
the access we need/deserve.
1/13/2015 10:36 AM View respondent's answers
To force us to use the Multiuse trail
is dangerous . There are frequently a multitude of runners ,moms with running
strollers , family's with little children ,Ponte Vedra HS track athletes that
run in the Multiuse trail too. In addition the elderly and retired are walking
their dogs or just taking a stroll would be confronted with cyclists which
would be a serious problem . If 50 or more cyclists would have to share this it
is only a period of time where accidents will happen .I feel the rights of St
John's county inhabitants who frequent the Multiuse trail would be threatening
to the point of being scary dangerous . ( A cyclist in NYC Central Park
recently killed a pedestrian ) This could lead if and when an accident occurred
to potential lawsuits against St John's County .The simplest solution to not
have those confrontations and potentially serious outcomes would be to allow
the cyclists to use Nocatee Parkway . Cyclists are already using a portion of
this road safely traveling in single file with no bad outcomes . I see no other
way to protect the the citizens of St John's County . Cyclist already know the
risks and most if not all use red flashing lights on the back of their bicycle
to alert the motorist that they are coming upon a group or individual cyclists
. The cost to St John's county to change the signs allowing cyclists to ride on
Nocatee Parkway would be minimal compared to a potential litigenous lawsuit .
Thank you John Joseph Doyle MD
1/13/2015 9:02 AM View respondent's answers
The entire road was poorly designed!
How were they ever allowed to build that road without bike lanes! At a minimum
there should be a bike path on both sides of the road! Make the polititions
ride the rout and see what feedback they have!
1/13/2015 8:10 AM View respondent's answers
i believe that there will be an
increase in injuries to both cyclists and pedestrians if cyclists are forced to
use the multi-use trail ... Our pacelines often include as many as 15 cyclist,
who will be forced to manurver around joggers, walkers, mothers with baby
strollers and the like.
1/13/2015 7:32 AM View respondent's answers
Cyclists are going to use Nocatee
Pkwy regardless - It's just a question of whether the city will officially
condone it -
1/13/2015 7:08 AM View respondent's answers
Same road same right. Please find a
way that we may continue to ride the roads legally. Thanks!
1/13/2015 12:21 AM View respondent's answers
Crossing 4 lanes of traffic is very
dangerous when compared to taking the exit.
1/12/2015 10:14 PM View respondent's answers
Safety is the most important
consideration for bicyclist and vehicular traffic. Riding on designated bicycle
lanes with traffic is the best way to maintain safety and would be consistent
with the rest of the city that have bicycle lanes with traffic lanes.
1/12/2015 9:46 PM View respondent's answers
Bike shoulder should be standard
construction for all roads.
1/12/2015 9:41 PM View respondent's answers
Multi use paths are fine for a mix of
pedestrians,runners and slow cycling under 10mph. Road cyclists whether in
groups or indivually are not suited and it becomes unsafe for all
1/12/2015 9:11 PM View respondent's answers
If safety is the most important
factor here, the county should allow access on the parkway and not force
cyclist to cross the highway and ride on the narrow path with foot bridge. Many
communities are taking steps to make areas more cyclist friendly. To make the
roads safer for drivers and cyclist a like, the county should add bike lanes to
the stretch from Micklers to Palm Valley Bridge as well as make the the old
Palm Valley road they are closing a cycling path or repave the road for all
residents.
1/12/2015 9:08 PM View respondent's answers
Please allow bicycles access to the
currently restricted section of the parkway. The multi-use trail is not
sufficient for road cycling.
1/12/2015 8:45 PM View respondent's answers
Saturday, January 17, 2015
BFSC Sunday January 18 Road Ride Schedule
BFSC Sunday Road Bike Ride Schedule
Sunday - Jan 18 - 8:00 AM @ The Lodge
Group Ride - Ride Pace 19 - 22 MPH
Distance - 40 - 80 miles
There maybe a couple of optional routes and distance develop as the ride begins.
Lets get everyone over the PV Bridge before the pace picks up
Monday, January 12, 2015
Would You Like to Have Gate Access to Hanna Park at the North End of Seminole Road in Atlantic Beach? - Atlantic Beach Town Hall Meeting Monday January 12 @ 6:30 PM
Would You Like to Have a Gate Access to Hanna Park at the North End of Seminole Road in Atlantic Beach?
Please attend the Atlantic Beach Town Hall meeting tonight, Monday, January 12 at 6:30 PM
Address: Town Hall is at the Five Points intersection at Plaza and Seminole Road.
Come and let your voice be known!!!
Ocean Walk Neighborhood Association and residents are mobilizing and letting their voice be heard in opposition to the Gate to Hanna Park. They claim there will be increased parking and vandalism issues if the Gate is allowed.
We need to your voice to counter Ocean Walk's claim against the gate access.
You can also send emails to:
To all 5 Commissioners: electedofficials@coab.us
Nelson Van Liere - City Manager: nvanliere@coab.us
Please attend the Atlantic Beach Town Hall meeting tonight, Monday, January 12 at 6:30 PM
Address: Town Hall is at the Five Points intersection at Plaza and Seminole Road.
Come and let your voice be known!!!
Ocean Walk Neighborhood Association and residents are mobilizing and letting their voice be heard in opposition to the Gate to Hanna Park. They claim there will be increased parking and vandalism issues if the Gate is allowed.
We need to your voice to counter Ocean Walk's claim against the gate access.
You can also send emails to:
To all 5 Commissioners: electedofficials@coab.us
Nelson Van Liere - City Manager: nvanliere@coab.us
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